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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
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[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|This page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Languages|nocat=1}}&lt;br /&gt;
__NOTOC__&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Minetest logo.png|thumb|Minetest logo]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Trolltest&#039;&#039;&#039; aka &#039;&#039;&#039;Luanti&#039;&#039;&#039; aka &#039;&#039;&#039;Minetest dot net&#039;&#039;&#039; was a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software free software] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine] that created various games based on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel] gameplay, inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft, and the like.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was originally created in 2010 to 2011 by Perttu Ahola (alias “[[celeron55]]”). Perttu largely left the project in 2012. The original project largely came to an end in 2017 with the end of Minetest 4. Four successors include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest at [https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
* Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft in mobile Play Stores (commercial software)&lt;br /&gt;
* Minenux (TO-DO: add link here)&lt;br /&gt;
* Trolltest at [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more about the different projects, visit the&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]] page. To summarize the key points here,&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.net/ minetest.net] is obsolete for multiple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The use cases of Free Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;-like Game, Minetest for Mobile, and Commercial Minetest are filled by Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft.&lt;br /&gt;
* The use cases of FOSS Minetest for Educators, Academics, Adult Model Builders, and former Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; modders are filled by Final Minetest.&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&#039;s focus is on breaking compatibility. The motto of the project is, &amp;quot;If it isn&#039;t broken, we&#039;d better fix that&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Most importantly, most of the key figures at [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net] are anonymous. These are shadowy figure with connections to two past FBI investigations related to illegal child materials. It isn&#039;t really a suitable edutech group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the Trolltest documentation is useful for Final Minetest and so those pages are included here. Trolltest content will be transformed into Final Minetest content over time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The basic idea of a Minetest game is typically as follows: The [[player]] is thrown into a huge [[World|world]] made out of cubes/[[blocks]]. Most of the time, these cubes make the landscape and these blocks can be [[Mining|removed]] and [[Building|placed]] almost entirely freely. Using the collected [[items]], new [[Tool|tools]] and other items can be [[Crafting|crafted]]. [[Games]] in Minetest can, however, be much more complex than this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A core concept of Minetest is a built-in [[Mods|modding]] capability, based on the Lua programming language. Mods allow one or more certain aspects of an existing game to be modified. Minetest mods can be as simple as adding a few decorational blocks or very complex by (for example) introducing complex new gameplay concepts or generating a completely different kind of world, and many other things. For the player, using a new mod requires to copy or extract some files into a certain location and pressing some buttons in Minetest&#039;s interface.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest can be played alone or [[Server|online]] together with multiple players.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [https://minetest.net minetest.net] software used to be bundled with a simple default game named “[[Games/Minetest Game|Minetest Game]]”. However, they seem to be deprecating the old game now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest, in comparison, comes with multiple games ranging from simple and light to ridiculously powerful.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Features ==&lt;br /&gt;
* A big cube-based world to discover (61840 nodes (cubes) in every dimension)&lt;br /&gt;
* Procedurally generated world&lt;br /&gt;
* Several [[Map generator|world generators]] with many adjustable parameters&lt;br /&gt;
* Extremely high configurability with an advanced settings editor and built-in descriptions, or by using a [[minetest.conf|configuration file]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Customize the graphics and sounds through [[Texture Packs|texture packs]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Download games, mods and texture packs from the built-in [[ContentDB]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Singleplayer mode and [[Server#Playing on a server|online multiplayer mode]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Server list&lt;br /&gt;
* Sophisticated modding system using Lua&lt;br /&gt;
* Mods are entirely server-sided. You can join any Minetest server with any mods and start playing, no additional software required&lt;br /&gt;
* Relatively low system requirements&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Screenshots ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Games ===&lt;br /&gt;
As Minetest is an engine, the actual in-game appearance heavily depends on the actual game being played. This is a selection of some of the games that were available for Minetest in the past.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Game gallery}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Mods ===&lt;br /&gt;
Mods are installed &#039;&#039;on top&#039;&#039; of games by the user to modify an existing game. These screenshots show mods modifying Minetest Game:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;400px&amp;quot; heights=&amp;quot;256px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Mesecons_example.jpg|[[Mesecons]]&lt;br /&gt;
Ethereal.jpg|[https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;amp;t=14638 Ethereal NG]&lt;br /&gt;
xtraores_xtension.jpg|[https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;amp;t=15229 xtraores_xtension] (Modpack)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hundred of mods exist. However, [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net] has broken a lot of classic mods and regularly breaks more. For this reason, the Trolltest group seems to have purged a number of classic mods from its mod site. The essential mods continue to exist in new versions but they often won&#039;t work with classic worlds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Classic mods and classic worlds, both, live on regardless in Final Minetest and [[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game.]] If you&#039;re a developer, you can also get the source code for lost mods which exist nowhere else -- [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net] people purged them -- at [https://git.minetest.org/ git.minetest.org.] The git site includes literally 11,000 repos. That&#039;s a lot of Test!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== More screenshots ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A number of screenshots have been posted by players in the threads linked below. &#039;&#039;&#039;Warning:&#039;&#039;&#039; Allow up to a minute or two for these web pages to load.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://forum.minetest.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;amp;t=10366 High-quality screenshots]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://forum.minetest.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;amp;t=15105 Castles, strongholds, towers and similar structures]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://forum.minetest.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;amp;t=10128 Various buildings]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://forum.minetest.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;amp;t=156 Any screenshots]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== System requirements ==&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest requires the following:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A computer, laptop, or Android device&lt;br /&gt;
* Linux, Android, or Windows&lt;br /&gt;
* Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft also supports Mac OS X and iPhones&lt;br /&gt;
* Screen&lt;br /&gt;
* Mouse and keyboard/touchscreen (mobile)&lt;br /&gt;
* Speakers (Optional: if you want to play with sound)&lt;br /&gt;
* Graphics&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In some cases, pre-built binaries are available. In other cases, you need to build your own.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you have Linux, and are willing to build your own binaries, your distro will probably work. Even Raspberry Pis are fine as long as the distro is Debian-based.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: BSD has worked in the past and will probably be supported again in the medium term.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In terms of system resources needed, this varies wildly depending on the game you choose, your view range and your tolerance and desired framerate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Legal ==&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is free software, without advertisements and free of charge. It is licensed under the [http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.1 GNU Lesser General Public License, version 2.1], with artwork generally covered by [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0 Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.minetest.net/downloads/ Download Trolltest]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Help:Getting Started|Getting Started]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Games/Minetest Game|Trolltest Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Version number]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Main Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:About Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Languages pages]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Main Page</title>
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers age 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and learn Linux CLI . Actually, many of the major original Minetest worlds, such as Lord of the Test and Moontest, were created by teenagers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most readers will have left the page by this point. If you&#039;ve made it this far, this is a project that you might have a lot of fun with for years to come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar project named Luanti. Luanti is FOSS, which is a plus. However, Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The project regularly breaks old worlds and existing mods. Additionally, the major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. They aren&#039;t accountable and tend to be trolls. Taking everything into account, Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only working, stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. It provides APIs, mods, animals, and other features that no other Minetest system includes. Multiple modsets ranging from super-light to massive are part of the bundle. If the types of use cases listed below are of interest, this is the framework for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Main Page</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers age 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and learn Linux CLI . Actually, many of the major original Minetest worlds, such as Lord of the Test and Moontest, were created by teenagers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most readers will have left the page by this point. If you&#039;ve made it this far, this is a project that you might have a lot of fun with for years to come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar project named Luanti. Luanti is FOSS, which is a plus. However, Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The project regularly breaks old worlds and existing mods. Additionally, the major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. They aren&#039;t accountable and tend to be trolls. Taking everything into account, Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only working. stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. It provides APIs, mods, animals, and other features that no other Minetest system includes. Multiple modsets ranging from super-light to massive are part of the bundle. If the types of use cases listed below are of interest, this is the framework for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17776</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17776"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:39:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers age 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and learn Linux CLI . Actually, many of the major original Minetest worlds, such as Lord of the Test and Moontest, were created by teenagers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most readers will have left the page by this point. If you&#039;ve made it this far, this is a project that you might have a lot of fun with for years to come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar project named Luanti. Luanti is FOSS, which is a plus. However, Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The project regularly breaks old worlds and existing mods. Additionally, the major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. They aren&#039;t accountable and tend to be trolls. Taking everything into account, Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only working. stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. It provides APIs, mods, animals, and other features that no other Minetest system includes. Multiple modsets ranging from super-light to massive are part of the bundle. If the types of use cases listed below are of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics.&lt;br /&gt;
* One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance.&lt;br /&gt;
* Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17775</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17775"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:34:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers age 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and learn Linux CLI . Actually, many of the major original Minetest worlds, such as Lord of the Test and Moontest, were created by teenagers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most readers will have left the page by this point. If you&#039;ve made it this far, this is a project that you might have a lot of fun with for years to come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar project named Luanti. Luanti is FOSS, which is a plus. However, Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The project regularly breaks old worlds and existing mods. Additionally, the major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. They aren&#039;t accountable and tend to be trolls. Taking everything into account, Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use cases described below are of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17774</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17774"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:31:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers age 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and learn Linux CLI . Actually, many of the major original Minetest worlds, such as Lord of the Test and Moontest, were created by teenagers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most readers will have left the page by this point. If you&#039;ve made it this far, this is a project that you might have a lot of fun with for years to come.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use cases described below are of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17773</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17773"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:29:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers age 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and learn Linux CLI . Actually, many of the major original Minetest worlds, such as Lord of the Test and Moontest, were created by teenagers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use cases described below are of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17772</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17772"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:29:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers age 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and have Linux CLI experience. Actually, many of the major original Minetest worlds, such as Lord of the Test and Moontest, were created by teenagers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use cases described below are of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17771</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17771"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:28:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and have Linux CLI experience.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use cases described below are of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17770</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17770"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:27:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and have Linux CLI experience.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported except by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use cases described below are of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17769</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17769"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:26:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and have Linux CLI experience.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft&amp;amp;trade;..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported except by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use cases described below are of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a collection of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17768</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17768"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:24:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and have Linux CLI experience.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft (tm).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds aren&#039;t on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported except by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use case described below is of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a &#039;&#039;&#039;collection&#039;&#039;&#039; of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17767</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17767"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:23:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and have Linux CLI experience.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft (tm).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds are not on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. &#039;&#039;&#039;To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported except by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use case described below is of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a &#039;&#039;&#039;collection&#039;&#039;&#039; of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17766</id>
		<title>Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;diff=17766"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T17:22:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Who is this for?&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This project, Final Minetest, is for hobbyists, teachers, professors, researchers, and masters degree candidates who are interested in Linux, voxel type simulations, and/or gamedev. The project is 100% FOSS (Free and Open Source).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are no preexisting binaries. You build the software and tailor it to your needs. Teenagers 15 and up can do this if they&#039;re determined and have Linux CLI experience.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The system includes a server that runs simulated worlds on a LAN, a client that can connect to the worlds on the LAN, and a self-contained server-client that can be used offline. The worlds look like Minecaft (tm).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;This isn&#039;t a Free Minecraft.&#039;&#039;&#039; The worlds are not on server lists and there is no mobile app,. The system is for creating your own private world networks for academic, research, or private group use. &#039;&#039;&#039;To use this system, you&#039;ll need to set up a Linux VPS or you can use a Linux PC at home or the office or in the classroom.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, Windows and Mac OS are only supported except by way of a web browser client. It&#039;s possible to go to Final Minetest worlds using a web browser. However, that part is still under development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;d like to edit this wiki, send email to: &#039;&#039;&#039;me@minetest.org&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re already a Minetest builder and you&#039;d like to visit some Final MT worlds, read the [[MT_Visitors|MT Visitors]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Tell me more&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest was a voxel gamedev and simulation system whose heyday was from 2011 to 2017. The project has split into primarily three pieces:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* There are commercial wall gardens such as Kawaii World and Maksym&#039;s MultiCraft. These should be avoided. They aren&#039;t FOSS and the goal is to lock you in and monetize you. If you create something in these walled gardens, you may not get to keep it and it may disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a similar FOSS project named Luanti. Luanti is limited, unstable, and not backwards compatible with Minetest. The major figures, with a few notable exceptions, are anonymous. Luanti is a dead end.&lt;br /&gt;
* Final Minetest is the only stable, backwards compatible, and actively maintaned  true FOSS Minetest remaining. If the use case described below is of interest, this is the project for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Teachers have used Minetest, and Final Minetest in particular, to model things like sewer systems for a classroom or to teach computing basics. One professor looked at the use of Final Minetest to model governance. Other applications include model train layouts for hobbyists, a platform that might be useful for people working on a masters degree, and a framework that can be used to learn coding. Hundreds of teenagers and adults have learned to code by doing Minetest mods.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Minetest is a free&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine game engine.]&lt;br /&gt;
Think of Minetest as a &#039;&#039;&#039;collection&#039;&#039;&#039; of different programs&lt;br /&gt;
similar to Minecraft&amp;amp;trade;. Each program can create or&lt;br /&gt;
visit blocky game worlds. Both offline worlds and communal worlds on the Internet are supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The blocky game worlds have themes such as Old West, post&lt;br /&gt;
apocalypse, ordinary cities, and many more. The client automatically&lt;br /&gt;
downloads assets. Gameplay is defined by Lua mods which usually&lt;br /&gt;
run on the server.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This type of game is referred to as&lt;br /&gt;
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel voxel.] One well-known part of many voxel games is that you can acquire ores and other materials, often by mining them, and use them to &amp;quot;craft&amp;quot; objects such as tools. However, Minetest offers more than this. And Final Minetest in particular is the FOSS platform of choice for edutech and academic voxel work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:lagrange_point_station.jpg|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The different Minetest programs include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Classic Minetest 4 from the 2010s&lt;br /&gt;
* Minetest 5, also known as Trolltest or [https://minetest.net/ minetest.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* A commercial program, MultiCraft (see note below)&lt;br /&gt;
* and the most advanced in some respects, Final Minetest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: MultiCraft, the Minetest fork, isn&#039;t related to Multicraft&amp;amp;trade;, a U.S. manufacturer, or Multicraft, a Swiss Minecraft&amp;amp;trade; hosting company, or Multicraft, a line of screwdrivers sold by PB Swiss Tools. Maksym should have chosen a more unique name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Final Minetest includes server and client programs of different types. Its primary server program, &#039;&#039;&#039;finetestserver,&#039;&#039;&#039; works with all major Minetest clients dated through mid-2023. Note: Post-2023 Trolltest and MultiCraft clients may not be supported.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This website focuses on Final Minetest but it includes some Trolltest documentation as it&#039;s partly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;pages-for-users&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Pages for users ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Which_Minetest|Which Test]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_IRC|Online Help]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs|Mobs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest_People|People in MT]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/changes.txt Changes]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These pages include parts for users, for world hosts, and for&lt;br /&gt;
developers in general.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To learn how to play on most servers, try&lt;br /&gt;
clicking Bucket_Game, which has the most popular mods (integrated&lt;br /&gt;
but configurable).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;developers-center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Developers&#039; Center ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Developers&#039; Center is largely for Final Minetest core developers and website admins. However, all visitors are welcome to read content.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pumpkin_190127.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;other-projects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Non-Minetest pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be added.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;about-site&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About this website ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a MediaWiki website. For MediaWiki details, [[Wiki_Admin|click here.]] Contact information for the website is at [[Contact|this link.]] Site Notices are at [[Site_Notices|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(end of main page)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17765</id>
		<title>MWSkin Timeless Patches</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17765"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:48:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: /* Introduction */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the Final Minetest wiki, and for MediaWiki wikis in general, the Timeless skin is recommended because as of mid-2023 it&#039;s more responsive than other bundled skins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, some patches to the Timeless skin are recommended. The patches are provided and discussed in the following sections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To browse or download a single Linux patch file that contains equivalent atches, use the following link:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/mwskin-timeless.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-real-estate-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Real-Estate patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is recommended. It prevents, except for very wide screens, the creation of an unnecessary 3rd column on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -16,8 +16,8 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-small-floor: 851px;&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-small-width: 1099px;&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-mid-floor: 1100px;&lt;br /&gt;
-@desktop-mid-width: 1339px;&lt;br /&gt;
-@desktop-large-floor: 1340px;&lt;br /&gt;
+@desktop-mid-width: 1799px;&lt;br /&gt;
+@desktop-large-floor: 1800px;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 // The max-width for the content&lt;br /&gt;
 @content-width: 115em;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -89,10 +89,10 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 851px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-full.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
-					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1340px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
+					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1800px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-mid.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
-					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1339px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
+					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1799px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-small.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
 					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 851px) and (max-width: 1099px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==== end of patch ====&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-alt-tag-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Alt-Tag patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is less important but will help with SEO. It adds support for an optional &amp;quot;alt&amp;quot; tag that can be added to a Timeless wordmark image.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -486,6 +486,7 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 					&#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;src&#039;],&lt;br /&gt;
 					&#039;height&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;height&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
 					&#039;width&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;width&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
+					&#039;alt&#039;   =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;alt&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
 				] );&lt;br /&gt;
 			}&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
==== end of patch ====&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To use the added feature, you&#039;d put something similar to the &#039;wordmark&#039; part below in your &amp;quot;LocalSettings.php&amp;quot; &amp;quot;$wgLogos&amp;quot; block:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgLogos = [&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;1x&#039;       =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;icon&#039;     =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;wordmark&#039; =&amp;gt; [&lt;br /&gt;
         # recommended size is 200x38 or less&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;fmwordmark-text.png&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;alt&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;Final Minetest wordmark&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     ] ,&lt;br /&gt;
 ];&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17764</id>
		<title>MWSkin Timeless Patches</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17764"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:46:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: /* Timeless Alt-Tag patch */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the Final Minetest wiki, and for MediaWiki wikis in general, the Timeless skin is recommended because as of mid-2023 it&#039;s more responsive than other bundled skins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, some patches to the Timeless skin are recommended. The patches are provided and discussed in the following sections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following sections aren&#039;t Linux &amp;quot;patch&amp;quot; files. Instead, they&#039;re condensed patches that are intended for human readers. The associated edits need to be made manually.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To browse or download a single Linux patch file that contains comparable patches, use the following link:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/mwskin-timeless.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-real-estate-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Real-Estate patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is recommended. It prevents, except for very wide screens, the creation of an unnecessary 3rd column on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -16,8 +16,8 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-small-floor: 851px;&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-small-width: 1099px;&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-mid-floor: 1100px;&lt;br /&gt;
-@desktop-mid-width: 1339px;&lt;br /&gt;
-@desktop-large-floor: 1340px;&lt;br /&gt;
+@desktop-mid-width: 1799px;&lt;br /&gt;
+@desktop-large-floor: 1800px;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 // The max-width for the content&lt;br /&gt;
 @content-width: 115em;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -89,10 +89,10 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 851px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-full.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
-					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1340px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
+					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1800px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-mid.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
-					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1339px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
+					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1799px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-small.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
 					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 851px) and (max-width: 1099px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==== end of patch ====&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-alt-tag-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Alt-Tag patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is less important but will help with SEO. It adds support for an optional &amp;quot;alt&amp;quot; tag that can be added to a Timeless wordmark image.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -486,6 +486,7 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 					&#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;src&#039;],&lt;br /&gt;
 					&#039;height&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;height&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
 					&#039;width&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;width&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
+					&#039;alt&#039;   =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;alt&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
 				] );&lt;br /&gt;
 			}&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
==== end of patch ====&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To use the added feature, you&#039;d put something similar to the &#039;wordmark&#039; part below in your &amp;quot;LocalSettings.php&amp;quot; &amp;quot;$wgLogos&amp;quot; block:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgLogos = [&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;1x&#039;       =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;icon&#039;     =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;wordmark&#039; =&amp;gt; [&lt;br /&gt;
         # recommended size is 200x38 or less&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;fmwordmark-text.png&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;alt&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;Final Minetest wordmark&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     ] ,&lt;br /&gt;
 ];&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17763</id>
		<title>MWSkin Timeless Patches</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17763"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:44:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: /* Timeless Real-Estate patch */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the Final Minetest wiki, and for MediaWiki wikis in general, the Timeless skin is recommended because as of mid-2023 it&#039;s more responsive than other bundled skins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, some patches to the Timeless skin are recommended. The patches are provided and discussed in the following sections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following sections aren&#039;t Linux &amp;quot;patch&amp;quot; files. Instead, they&#039;re condensed patches that are intended for human readers. The associated edits need to be made manually.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To browse or download a single Linux patch file that contains comparable patches, use the following link:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/mwskin-timeless.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-real-estate-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Real-Estate patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is recommended. It prevents, except for very wide screens, the creation of an unnecessary 3rd column on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -16,8 +16,8 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-small-floor: 851px;&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-small-width: 1099px;&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-mid-floor: 1100px;&lt;br /&gt;
-@desktop-mid-width: 1339px;&lt;br /&gt;
-@desktop-large-floor: 1340px;&lt;br /&gt;
+@desktop-mid-width: 1799px;&lt;br /&gt;
+@desktop-large-floor: 1800px;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 // The max-width for the content&lt;br /&gt;
 @content-width: 115em;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -89,10 +89,10 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 851px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-full.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
-					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1340px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
+					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1800px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-mid.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
-					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1339px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
+					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1799px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-small.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
 					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 851px) and (max-width: 1099px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==== end of patch ====&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-alt-tag-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Alt-Tag patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is less important but will help with SEO. It adds support for an optional &amp;quot;alt&amp;quot; tag that can be added to a Timeless wordmark image.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 --- Timeless.old/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
 +++ Timeless/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
     if ( !$wordmarkImage &amp;amp;&amp;amp; isset( $logos[&#039;wordmark&#039;] ) ) {&lt;br /&gt;
         $wordmarkData = $logos[&#039;wordmark&#039;];&lt;br /&gt;
         $wordmarkImage = Html::element( &#039;img&#039;, [&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;src&#039;],&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;height&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;height&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;width&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;width&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
 +           &#039;alt&#039;   =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;alt&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
         ] );&lt;br /&gt;
     }&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To use the added feature, you&#039;d put something similar to the &#039;wordmark&#039; part below in your &amp;quot;LocalSettings.php&amp;quot; &amp;quot;$wgLogos&amp;quot; block:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgLogos = [&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;1x&#039;       =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;icon&#039;     =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;wordmark&#039; =&amp;gt; [&lt;br /&gt;
         # recommended size is 200x38 or less&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;fmwordmark-text.png&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;alt&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;Final Minetest wordmark&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     ] ,&lt;br /&gt;
 ];&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17762</id>
		<title>MWSkin Timeless Patches</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17762"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:40:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: /* Timeless Real-Estate patch */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the Final Minetest wiki, and for MediaWiki wikis in general, the Timeless skin is recommended because as of mid-2023 it&#039;s more responsive than other bundled skins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, some patches to the Timeless skin are recommended. The patches are provided and discussed in the following sections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following sections aren&#039;t Linux &amp;quot;patch&amp;quot; files. Instead, they&#039;re condensed patches that are intended for human readers. The associated edits need to be made manually.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To browse or download a single Linux patch file that contains comparable patches, use the following link:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/mwskin-timeless.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-real-estate-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Real-Estate patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is highly recommended. It prevents, except for very wide screens, the creation of an unnecessary 3rd column on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -16,8 +16,8 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-small-floor: 851px;&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-small-width: 1099px;&lt;br /&gt;
 @desktop-mid-floor: 1100px;&lt;br /&gt;
-@desktop-mid-width: 1339px;&lt;br /&gt;
-@desktop-large-floor: 1340px;&lt;br /&gt;
+@desktop-mid-width: 1799px;&lt;br /&gt;
+@desktop-large-floor: 1800px;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 // The max-width for the content&lt;br /&gt;
 @content-width: 115em;&lt;br /&gt;
--- Timeless.old/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
+++ Timeless/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
@@ -89,10 +89,10 @@&lt;br /&gt;
 					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 851px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-full.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
-					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1340px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
+					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1800px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-mid.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
-					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1339px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
+					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1799px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 				},&lt;br /&gt;
 				&amp;quot;resources/screen-desktop-small.less&amp;quot;: {&lt;br /&gt;
 					&amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 851px) and (max-width: 1099px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==== end of patch ====&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-alt-tag-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Alt-Tag patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is less important but will help with SEO. It adds support for an optional &amp;quot;alt&amp;quot; tag that can be added to a Timeless wordmark image.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 --- Timeless.old/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
 +++ Timeless/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
     if ( !$wordmarkImage &amp;amp;&amp;amp; isset( $logos[&#039;wordmark&#039;] ) ) {&lt;br /&gt;
         $wordmarkData = $logos[&#039;wordmark&#039;];&lt;br /&gt;
         $wordmarkImage = Html::element( &#039;img&#039;, [&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;src&#039;],&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;height&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;height&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;width&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;width&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
 +           &#039;alt&#039;   =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;alt&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
         ] );&lt;br /&gt;
     }&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To use the added feature, you&#039;d put something similar to the &#039;wordmark&#039; part below in your &amp;quot;LocalSettings.php&amp;quot; &amp;quot;$wgLogos&amp;quot; block:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgLogos = [&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;1x&#039;       =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;icon&#039;     =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;wordmark&#039; =&amp;gt; [&lt;br /&gt;
         # recommended size is 200x38 or less&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;fmwordmark-text.png&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;alt&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;Final Minetest wordmark&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     ] ,&lt;br /&gt;
 ];&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17761</id>
		<title>MWSkin Timeless Patches</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MWSkin_Timeless_Patches&amp;diff=17761"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:33:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Trolltest|Trolltest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For the Final Minetest wiki, and for MediaWiki wikis in general, the Timeless skin is recommended because as of mid-2023 it&#039;s more responsive than other bundled skins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, some patches to the Timeless skin are recommended. The patches are provided and discussed in the following sections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following sections aren&#039;t Linux &amp;quot;patch&amp;quot; files. Instead, they&#039;re condensed patches that are intended for human readers. The associated edits need to be made manually.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To browse or download a single Linux patch file that contains comparable patches, use the following link:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/mwskin-timeless.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-real-estate-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Real-Estate patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is highly recommended. It prevents, except for very wide screens, the creation of an unnecessary 3rd column on the right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 --- Timeless.old/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
 +++ Timeless/skin.json&lt;br /&gt;
 - &amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1340px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 + &amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1800px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 - &amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1339px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 + &amp;quot;media&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;screen and (min-width: 1100px) and (max-width: 1799px)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 --- Timeless.old/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
 +++ Timeless/resources/variables.less&lt;br /&gt;
 -@desktop-mid-width: 1339px;&lt;br /&gt;
 -@desktop-large-floor: 1340px;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 +@desktop-mid-width: 1799px;&lt;br /&gt;
 +@desktop-large-floor: 1800px;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;timeless-alt-tag-patch&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeless Alt-Tag patch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This patch is less important but will help with SEO. It adds support for an optional &amp;quot;alt&amp;quot; tag that can be added to a Timeless wordmark image.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 --- Timeless.old/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
 +++ Timeless/includes/TimelessTemplate.php&lt;br /&gt;
     if ( !$wordmarkImage &amp;amp;&amp;amp; isset( $logos[&#039;wordmark&#039;] ) ) {&lt;br /&gt;
         $wordmarkData = $logos[&#039;wordmark&#039;];&lt;br /&gt;
         $wordmarkImage = Html::element( &#039;img&#039;, [&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;src&#039;],&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;height&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;height&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
             &#039;width&#039; =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;width&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
 +           &#039;alt&#039;   =&amp;gt; $wordmarkData[&#039;alt&#039;] ?? null,&lt;br /&gt;
         ] );&lt;br /&gt;
     }&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To use the added feature, you&#039;d put something similar to the &#039;wordmark&#039; part below in your &amp;quot;LocalSettings.php&amp;quot; &amp;quot;$wgLogos&amp;quot; block:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgLogos = [&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;1x&#039;       =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;icon&#039;     =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmwikismall.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;wordmark&#039; =&amp;gt; [&lt;br /&gt;
         # recommended size is 200x38 or less&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;fmwordmark-text.png&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;alt&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;Final Minetest wordmark&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     ] ,&lt;br /&gt;
 ];&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Wiki_Admin&amp;diff=17760</id>
		<title>Wiki Admin</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Wiki_Admin&amp;diff=17760"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:32:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|This page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MTWorlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This page discusses setup and maintenance issues related to this MediaWiki. It doesn&#039;t include instructions to install from scratch yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;wiki-admin-common&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Common Wiki admin issues&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Wiki_Admin|This page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Wiki_Backup|Back-up wiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Add_Wiki_Images_and_Other_Files|Add images]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Add_Wiki_Images_and_Other_Files|Add files]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MWSkin_Timeless_Patches|Timeless patches]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common CSS]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MediaWiki:Monobook.css|Monobook CSS]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MediaWiki:Timeless.css|Timeless CSS]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MediaWiki:Vector.css|Vector CSS]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MediaWiki:Common.js|Common JS]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MediaWiki:Sidebar|Edit sidebar]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Related notes:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* If you edit the CSS code, you and other visitors will need to clear browser cache before the changes will be visible. This may be true for some JS changes as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* No extension is needed to add StatCounter support. Instead, to add such support, one puts an appropriate block of JS code at the bottom of the [[MediaWiki:Common.js|Common.js]] page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;wiki-mid-2023&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Changes relative to base ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The mid-2023 iteration of this wiki was based initially on MediaWiki 1.38.7. The distribution tarball used, which may no longer exist at the original link, was:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.38/mediawiki-1.38.7.tar.gz&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As of early September 2023, three files in the Timeless skin code had been modified. Those changes are described at [[MWSkin_Timeless_Patches|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No other changes to existing files had been made that needed to be kept.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A number of new files had been added. The additions may be summarized as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* LocalSettings.php&lt;br /&gt;
* a site logo image&lt;br /&gt;
* a site wordmark image&lt;br /&gt;
* images imported using a maintenance script&lt;br /&gt;
* a subdirectory &amp;quot;admin/&amp;quot; for admin notes and files&lt;br /&gt;
* a subdirectory &amp;quot;misc/&amp;quot; for misc. public files&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some configuration pages had been modified [in the GUI and MariaDB database] as well. Partial list for that:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Skins CSS pages&lt;br /&gt;
* Sidebar&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;localsettings-key&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Key settings in LocalSettings.php&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a partial list of site-specific settings that were used in &amp;quot;LocalSettings.php&amp;quot; as of September 2023:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgSitename    = &amp;quot;Minetest&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgServer      = &amp;quot;https://wiki.minetest.org&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgEnableEmail = false;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 $wgLogos = [&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;1x&#039;       =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmlogo.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;icon&#039;     =&amp;gt; &amp;quot;fmlogo.png&amp;quot; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     &#039;wordmark&#039; =&amp;gt; [&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;src&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;fmwordmark-text.png&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
         &#039;alt&#039; =&amp;gt; &#039;Final Minetest wordmark&#039; ,&lt;br /&gt;
     ] ,&lt;br /&gt;
 ];&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 $wgDBtype     = &amp;quot;mysql&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgDBserver   = &amp;quot;localhost&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgDBname     = &amp;quot;mediawiki&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgDBuser     = &amp;quot;mediawiki&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgDBpassword = &amp;quot;(a password)&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgDBprefix   = &amp;quot;mw_&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 $wgEnableUploads = false;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgPingback      = false;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgLocaltimezone = &amp;quot;America/Los_Angeles&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 $wgDefaultSkin   = &amp;quot;timeless&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 wfLoadSkin( &#039;MonoBook&#039; );&lt;br /&gt;
 wfLoadSkin( &#039;Timeless&#039; );&lt;br /&gt;
 wfLoadSkin( &#039;Vector&#039;   );&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 wfLoadExtension( &#039;WikiEditor&#039;  );&lt;br /&gt;
 wfLoadExtension( &#039;Cite&#039;        );&lt;br /&gt;
 wfLoadExtension( &#039;Scribunto&#039;   );&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 wfLoadExtension( &#039;ParserFunctions&#039;       );&lt;br /&gt;
 wfLoadExtension( &#039;SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi&#039; );&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: The &#039;alt&#039; feature used above depended on the patches at [[MWSkin_Timeless_Patches|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;wiki-update-230903&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== How one update was done&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The wiki was updated from 1.38.7 to 1.39.4 in early September 2023. The distribution tarball used, which may no longer exist at the original link, was:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.39/mediawiki-1.39.4.tar.gz&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following procedure was used:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. Back-up the MS-SQL database. &#039;&#039;&#039;Important:&#039;&#039;&#039; This step is essential because MediaWiki updates are one-way in this context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. Execute commands similar to the following with paths modified appropriately:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 rm -fr                     mediawiki-1.39.4&lt;br /&gt;
 tar zxf         /somewhere/mediawiki-1.39.4.tar.gz&lt;br /&gt;
 chown -R www-data.www-data mediawiki-1.39.4&lt;br /&gt;
 cd                         mediawiki-1.39.4&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
 rm -fr images # Empty except for a README&lt;br /&gt;
 cp -a /somewhere/oldwiki/LocalSettings.php   .&lt;br /&gt;
 cp -a /somewhere/oldwiki/{admin,misc,images} .&lt;br /&gt;
 cp -a /somewhere/oldwiki/*.png .&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3. Move the old wiki tree out of the way, move the new wiki tree to the appropriate pathname, go to the top directory of the new wiki tree after moving it, and execute:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre style=&amp;quot;white-space: pre;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 cd maintenance&lt;br /&gt;
 php update.php&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4. Apply the patches at [[MWSkin_Timeless_Patches|this link.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
5. Clear your browser cache.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
6. If you&#039;d added any extensions to the old wiki, at this point, you&#039;d install updated copies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;wiki-issues-1.40&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Issues with MediaWiki 1.40.X &amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If this MediaWiki hasn&#039;t already been updated to the 1.40.X series, be aware of the following issues with that series:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. An &amp;quot;nginx&amp;quot; config change may be needed. Specifically, the following line should be added, if it isn&#039;t already present, to the appropriate &amp;quot;server { ... }&amp;quot; block in the appropriate domain configuration file:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
add_header X-Content-Type-Options nosniff;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note: This change has already been made on the web server used but may need to be re-made if things change.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. Minimum password length has been increased.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3. Maintenance scripts should now be executed using commands of the form &amp;quot;php run.php update&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;php update.php&amp;quot;.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Devel_Center&amp;diff=17759</id>
		<title>Devel Center</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Devel_Center&amp;diff=17759"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:31:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|This page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This page provides some links for use by Final Minetest core developers and website admins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;devel-common&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Final Minetest VPS admin&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[MT_Boxes|VPS admin]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;devel-other&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other developer/admin issues&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_ENIssues|ENIssues]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Wiki_Admin|Wiki Admin]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Model_Requests|Model Requests]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_World_Pieces|World Pieces]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_MCImport|MCImport]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_LBMs|LBMs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Anticheat|Anticheat]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://olddev.minetest.org/ Trolldev Wiki]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MT5 Changes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Devel_Center&amp;diff=17758</id>
		<title>Devel Center</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Devel_Center&amp;diff=17758"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:29:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: /* Other developer/admin issues&amp;amp;nbsp; */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|This page]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This page provides some links for use by Final Minetest core developers and website admins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;devel-common&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Final Minetest VPS admin&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[MT_Boxes|VPS admin]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;devel-other&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other developer/admin issues&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_ENIssues|ENIssues]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Kinetic_Combat|Kinetic Combat]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Wiki_Admin|Wiki Admin]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Model_Requests|Model Requests]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_World_Pieces|World Pieces]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_MCImport|MCImport]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_LBMs|LBMs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Anticheat|Anticheat]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://olddev.minetest.org/ Trolldev Wiki]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MT5 Changes]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Bucket_Game&amp;diff=17757</id>
		<title>Bucket Game</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Bucket_Game&amp;diff=17757"/>
		<updated>2026-05-26T15:28:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
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[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Browser_Play|Browser Play!]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|This page]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|Devel Center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These pages discuss Bucket Game. There are parts for builders, for world hosts, and for developers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For basic concepts, please read the [[Main_Page|introduction]] to Minetest.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;basic-operations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Some basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[CoderFood|CoderFood]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[CoderSea|CoderSea]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[CoderSkins|CoderSkins]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Crafting|Crafting]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[EMail|Email]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Farming|Farming]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Furniture|Furniture]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ocsethome|Homes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mining|Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Areas|Protection]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;teleportation&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Teleportation ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Spawn|Spawn]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Palantiri|Palantiri]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Travelnets|Travelnets]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[CoderWarp|CoderWarp]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[CMD_TP|/tp]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[TPA_and_TPR|/tpa and /tpr]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;mobs-in-general&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Mobs in general ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs_Setup|Mobs Setup]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs_Lifespan|Lifespan]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs_Spawning|Spawning]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs_Taming|Taming]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;individual-mob-types&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Individual mob types ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobs_Chicken]] [[Mobs_Lost_Soul|Lost Soul]] [[Mobs_Silverfish|Silverfish]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;advanced-features&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Advanced features ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[CoderEdit|CoderEdit]] [[CoderGroups|CoderGroups]] [[ERegions|ERegions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mobtopias|Mobtopias]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTMachines|MT Machines]] [[Ranks|Ranks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Unified_Foods|Unified Foods]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[CoderWiki|In-game Wiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=Devel_Center&amp;diff=17756</id>
		<title>Devel Center</title>
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		<updated>2026-05-26T15:27:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
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[[Main_Page|Start Page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Minetest|Minetest]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MTWorlds|MT worlds]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bucket_Game|Bucket Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Player_Basics|Player Basics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Downloads|Downloads]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Contact|Contact]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Center|This page]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://minetest.org/ minetest.org]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://git.minetest.org/ 11,000 repos]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://irc.minetest.org:9000/ CoderChat]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://edgy1.net/ EdgyNet]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;introduction&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This page provides some links for use by Final Minetest core developers and website admins.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;devel-common&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Final Minetest VPS admin&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[MT_Boxes|VPS admin]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;devel-other&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other developer/admin issues&amp;amp;nbsp; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;p44_navbar&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_ENIssues|ENIssues]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Kinetic_Combat|Kinetic Combat]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_Model_Requests|Model Requests]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_World_Pieces|World Pieces]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_MCImport|MCImport]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Devel_LBMs|LBMs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Anticheat|Anticheat]]&lt;br /&gt;
[https://olddev.minetest.org/ Trolldev Wiki]&lt;br /&gt;
[[MT5 Changes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Poetry</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&amp;diff=17755</id>
		<title>MediaWiki:Sidebar</title>
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		<updated>2026-05-26T15:25:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: &lt;/p&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.minetest.org/index.php?title=AI&amp;diff=17736</id>
		<title>AI</title>
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		<updated>2026-01-24T06:42:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Poetry: /* AI Thefty is Hefty */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260123&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; in its current form is, in key respects, not real and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania. This article is slightly unusual in that I asked AIs to rebut those points. Surprisingly, AIs seem to agree with much of what I&#039;ve said.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To be clear, AI is important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the current frenzy. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
AI is a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For an introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no intrinsic value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That side of the picture is referred to as Business-to-Consumer or B2C sales. AI firms hope to profit from Business-to-Business or B2B sales as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B2B sales are going to happen and they might be significant. Mass replacement of the workforce and mass B2C sales, not so much. There will be progress, from the AI business perspective, at all three levels over time, but not a societal transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I asked an AI to comment on this position. The AI responded, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This perspective aligns with a significant portion of current expert analysis and market trends as of early 2026.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The AI mania is largely about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The books and pictures are still there. However, they&#039;re in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LLM is designed to write text or to code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of rapturous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random. This leads not only to minor glitches but, quite frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court. In fact, some of the firms have been sanctioned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In one minor but striking example, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing had presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucinations, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
3. Racial or other types of group hatred bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken as lightly as it is in discussions of AIs in public-facing roles.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as &amp;quot;transformative use&amp;quot; applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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A recent development in this context is the confirmation that LLMs and GenAIs do, in fact, regularly memorize parts of their training data -- including verbatim passages from ingested works.&lt;br /&gt;
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This contradicts the long-held position of the AI industry that LLMs and GenAIs learn from examples how to generalize facts to produce answers as opposed to memorizing the examples themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on this part. The LLM stated back to me essentially what I&#039;ve just said. In short, the AI industry&#039;s public position on the subject is incorrect. This development has significant legal as well as practical implications.&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM that I queried added the helpful point that we actually know roughly how much memorization takes place.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;LLMs&amp;quot;,&#039;&#039; the LLM said, &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;memorize about 3.6 bits per parameter. This means that while most outputs are generated through pattern recognition and generalization, some sequences -- especially unique or rare ones -- can be reproduced nearly verbatim. This result appears to hold for all mainstream transformer-based LLMs.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260111-clippy-clipped.jpg|alt=clippy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260123&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; in its current form is, in key respects, not real and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania. This article is slightly unusual in that I asked AIs to rebut those points. Surprisingly, AIs seem to agree with much of what I&#039;ve said.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be clear, AI is important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the current frenzy. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For an introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no intrinsic value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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That side of the picture is referred to as Business-to-Consumer or B2C sales. AI firms hope to profit from Business-to-Business or B2B sales as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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B2B sales are going to happen and they might be significant. Mass replacement of the workforce and mass B2C sales, not so much. There will be progress, from the AI business perspective, at all three levels over time, but not a societal transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI to comment on this position. The AI responded, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This perspective aligns with a significant portion of current expert analysis and market trends as of early 2026.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is largely about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they&#039;re in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or to code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of rapturous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random. This leads not only to minor glitches but, quite frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court. In fact, some of the firms have been sanctioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one minor but striking example, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing had presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucinations, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken as lightly as it is in discussions of AIs in public-facing roles.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as &amp;quot;transformative use&amp;quot; applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A recent development in this context is the confirmation that LLMs and GenAIs do, in fact, regularly memorize parts of their training data -- including verbatim passages from ingested works.&lt;br /&gt;
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This contradicts the long-held position of the AI industry that LLMs and GenAIs learn from examples how to generalize facts to produce answers as opposed to memorizing the examples themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on this part. The LLM stated back to me essentially what I&#039;ve just said. In short, the AI industry&#039;s public position on the subject is incorrect. This development has significant legal as well as practical implications.&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM that I queried added the helpful point that we actually know roughly how much memorization takes place.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;LLMs&amp;quot;, the LLM said, &amp;quot;memorize about 3.6 bits per parameter. This means that while most outputs are generated through pattern recognition and generalization, some sequences -- especially unique or rare ones -- can be reproduced nearly verbatim. This result appears to hold for all mainstream transformer-based LLMs.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260111-clippy-clipped.jpg|alt=clippy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260123&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; in its current form is, in key respects, not real and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania. This article is slightly unusual in that I asked AIs to rebut those points. Surprisingly, AIs seem to agree with much of what I&#039;ve said.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be clear, AI is important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the current frenzy. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For an introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no intrinsic value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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That side of the picture is referred to as Business-to-Consumer or B2C sales. AI firms hope to profit from Business-to-Business or B2B sales as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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B2B sales are going to happen and they might be significant. Mass replacement of the workforce and mass B2C sales, not so much. There will be progress, from the AI business perspective, at all three levels over time, but not a societal transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI to comment on this position. The AI responded, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This perspective aligns with a significant portion of current expert analysis and market trends as of early 2026.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is largely about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they&#039;re in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or to code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of rapturous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random. This leads not only to minor glitches but, quite frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court. In fact, some of the firms have been sanctioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one minor but striking example, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing had presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucinations, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken as lightly as it is in discussions of AIs in public-facing roles.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as &amp;quot;transformative use&amp;quot; applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; in its current form is, in key respects, not real and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania. This article is slightly unusual in that I asked AIs to rebut those points. Surprisingly, AIs seem to agree with much of what I&#039;ve said.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be clear, AI is important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the current frenzy. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For an introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no intrinsic value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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That side of the picture is referred to as Business-to-Consumer or B2C sales. AI firms hope to profit from Business-to-Business or B2B sales as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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B2B sales are going to happen and they might be significant. Mass replacement of the workforce and mass B2C sales, not so much. There will be progress, from the AI business perspective, at all three levels over time, but not a societal transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI to comment on this position. The AI responded, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This perspective aligns with a significant portion of current expert analysis and market trends as of early 2026.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court. In fact, some of the firms have been sanctioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one minor but striking example, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing had presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken as lightly as it is in discussions of AIs in public-facing roles.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; in its current form is rubbish and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania of unprecedented magnitude. This article is a little unusual in that I asked AIs to rebut those points. Surprisingly, AIs seem to agree with much of what I&#039;ve said.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be clear,  AI &#039;&#039;&#039;*is*&#039;&#039;&#039; important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the mania. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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That side of the picture is referred to as Business-to-Consumer or B2C sales. AI firms hope to profit from Business-to-Business or B2B sales as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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B2B sales are going to happen and they might be significant. Mass replacement of the workforce and mass B2C sales, not so much. There will be progress, from the AI business perspective, at all three levels over time, but not a societal transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI to comment on this position. The AI responded, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This perspective aligns with a significant portion of current expert analysis and market trends as of early 2026.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; in its current form is rubbish and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania of unprecedented magnitude. This article is a little unusual in that I asked AIs to rebut those points. Surprisingly, AIs seem to agree with much of what I&#039;ve said.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be clear,  AI &#039;&#039;&#039;*is*&#039;&#039;&#039; important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the mania. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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That side of the picture is referred to as Business-to-Consumer or B2C sales. AI firms hope to profit from Business-to-Business or B2B sales as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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B2B sales are going to happen and they might be significant. Mass replacement of the workforce and mass B2C sales, not so much. There will be progress, from the AI business perspective, at all three levels over time, but not a societal transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI to comment on this position. The AI responded, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This perspective aligns with a significant portion of current expert analysis and market trends as of early 2026.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; as it stands is patent nonsense and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania of unprecedented magnitude. &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; *is* important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the mania. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; as it stands is patent nonsense and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania of unprecedented magnitude. &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; *is* important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the mania. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; as it stands is patent nonsense and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania of unprecedented magnitude. &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; *is* important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the mania. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; as it stands is patent nonsense and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania of unprecedented magnitude. &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; *is* important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the mania. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; as it stands is patent nonsense and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania of unprecedented magnitude. &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; *is* important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the mania. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thesis is that &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; as it stands is patent nonsense and that the current &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; era is a mania of unprecedented magnitude. &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; *is* important and a part of the future. The discussion here is related to the mania. We&#039;ll edit the master copy of this document to reflect feedback. The master copy is located temporarily at:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
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The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The temporary master copy of this document is located at: https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is highly attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The temporary master copy of this document is located at: https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help. Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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The temporary master copy of this document is located at: https://wiki.minetest.org/AI&lt;br /&gt;
The master copy may move to a different site.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers. This part is already happening. Prices for RAM and related products such as laptops are soaring. Small businesses that depend on chips of different types are being forced to cut back on production and even to fire people.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-side.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-side.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Oh, that&#039;s AI.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-side.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Enshittification&amp;quot; is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue, and for other reasons, I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life. However, now he steals your personal work and resells it. Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;*that*&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations are going to do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Consumers, too, are increasingly aware of the mediocre or derivative or hollow results that AI presently produces and of the lack of relevance to their daily tasks and lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s true that some software developers and architects, writers, and other creative workers have started to build workflows that AI enhances significantly. A counterpoint to that is that many of these people were frustrated and even angry when OpenAI updated Chat-GPT from release 4 to release 5. The users were supposed to embrace the update. The actual reactions are food for thought related to the future of AI business models.&lt;br /&gt;
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More typical people see the often pointless AI content that is flooding YouTube and other venues as &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. The term &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot; is overused and is sometimes unfair. However, the fact is that AI content is increasingly unwelcome in both technical and ordinary venues.&lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel Stenberg, the developer of curl, one of the most important FOSS projects in existence, is now simply banning reports from people who submit &amp;quot;AI slop&amp;quot;. Stenberg says, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;“We still have not seen a single valid security report done with AI help&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I myself have been the subject of concerted online attacks as a response to the fact that I&#039;ve used GenAI illustrations as clip-art in online posts. Some people really, really don&#039;t like AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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But the anecdote that seems most telling is something that a mother who posted in a Fediverse thread mentioned in Fall 2025. She said that her 9-year-old son and his friends had started to use the word &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;fake&amp;quot;. To dismiss nonsense, the next generation says &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, that&#039;s AI&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-side.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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Enshittification is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue and for other reasons I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life but now he steals your personal work and resells it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations will do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is not about a new paradigm, a new economy, or a new era in which all is transformed. The proper technical term for that vision is &amp;quot;nonsense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Present AI is a frenzy of greed and a mania of unprecedented scale. Just as with crypto and other manias, investing prematurely in the sector may lead to riches or to rags.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-grok-watermelon.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-side.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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Enshittification is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue and for other reasons I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life but now he steals your personal work and resells it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations will do with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad. Run away. Run away fast.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://wiki.minetest.org/misc/manias.html&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-parrot-niagra.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-boundaries.jpg|alt=boundaries|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol_Foundation_for_the_Visual_Arts,_Inc._v._Goldsmith&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:260110-burglar.jpg|600px|alt=burglar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-side.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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Enshittification is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue and for other reasons I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life but now he steals your personal work and resells it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations will do with with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad. Run away. Run away fast.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== AI is Fake For Goodness Sake ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Author: The Old Coder aka Robert Kiraly&lt;br /&gt;
License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 International&lt;br /&gt;
Revision: 260111&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an article about &amp;quot;AI&amp;quot;. The reading level for this article is High School to adult. An interest in business will help.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the illustrations are by GenAI, one type of AI. GenAI is discussed further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are the take-aways up front:&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is here to stay. It&#039;ll play a role in your life in the future. However, as of 2026, most of the over-the-top AI predictions that you see in the media are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI is presently a mania similar to the dot-com mania or the Dutch Tulip mania. Or crypto, though that didn&#039;t go so far. It isn&#039;t real. This doesn&#039;t mean that there won&#039;t be AI in the future. It does mean that the current AI frenzy will collapse first.&lt;br /&gt;
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For a nice introduction to manias of this type, read the article linked below:&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an AI about this. The AI pointed that Dutch Tulips had no real value, but the AI itself was able to do things. This is true, but the point is that we&#039;re in an AI mania, not that AI has no value.&lt;br /&gt;
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The heart of the AI mania is the idea that businesses are going to be able to replace people en masse, large parts of the work force, with software. Business profits will skyrocket after that because you don&#039;t need to pay software a salary. The idea is very attractive to CEOs. They want to believe it and so they&#039;ll continue to believe it for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, the people who have been fired are supposedly going to rush to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars per month on AI services that aren&#039;t even defined yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Food and rent can wait. Must pay for AI !&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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None of that is going to happen. Not en masse. Parts will happen naturally over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania is mostly about two types of software: LLM and GenAI. Neither of those is actually AI or &amp;quot;artificial intelligence&amp;quot;. Both of them have serious problems.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, you should expect AI as a useful tool to happen. But AI as a transformation comparable to the arrival of God on Earth, not so much. It&#039;ll be more like the fact that most people started to use websites and smartphones over time.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be an AI crash or at least a pullback. Useful parts of the AI ecosystem will survive just as happened with the dot-coms after the 1990s. The rest will be gone just as most of the original dot-com companies are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
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The rest of this article discusses the problems with LLM and GenAI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some AI Basics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is AI Basics 101. If you don&#039;t need to know how AI works, you can skip this part.&lt;br /&gt;
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A brain is made of billions of cells called neurons in addition to other types of cells. Each neuron is a small analog computing unit. Analog means that things are just approximate and not exact like in digital computers. A neuron takes multiple inputs and processes them to generate an output.&lt;br /&gt;
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A &amp;quot;neural net&amp;quot; is a toy version of a set of neurons written in code. It&#039;s only a toy. Real neurons are far more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you know a programming language such as &#039;C&#039; or Python, you can code a simple neural net fairly easily. You don&#039;t need a college degree or special training. I did this myself for my honors thesis 45 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial neural nets are more advanced these days, though not at the level of real neurons. However, the core principles of operation have remained largely the same over the decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, the magic isn&#039;t in the code but in data such as books and pictures that is fed into the code and ground up into what you can think of as data soup.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books and pictures are still there. However, they are in bits and pieces that are mixed together and scattered about. If you know what a hologram is, the data soup is very similar to a hologram.&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI furor that is in the news is mostly about &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot;. LLM and GenAI are two types of software that are based on neural nets.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM is designed to write text or code in text. The term &amp;quot;LLM&amp;quot; stands for Large Language Model. GenAI is designed to make pictures or music or other types of media. The term &amp;quot;GenAI&amp;quot; stands for Generative AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Hail AI Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI mania started in part due to the belief that the power of AI software was going to &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; meant that adding hardware would improve AI performance proportionately and that this would continue long enough to produce human-equivalent AIs or &amp;quot;AGIs&amp;quot;. Note: AGI is short for Artificial General Intelligence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, scaling has happened, but net improvements have declined over time. There is no reason to believe that scaling from current levels will produce massive improvements in AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, AGI based solely on the two current focus areas of LLM and GenAI isn&#039;t even &#039;&#039;&#039;possible.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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LLM and GenAI are similar to parrots though on a grand scale. &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Polly wants to drink Niagra Falls.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; They&#039;re not going to end up as AGI based solely on hardware &#039;&#039;&#039;no matter how much hardware is added.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM answered as follows:  &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Critics argue that LLMs are pattern matchers and interpolators of their training data, lacking comprehension or the ability to generalize robustly outside their training. However, a significant portion of the AI research community believes that LLM and GenAI, with architectural changes, could be stepping stones towards AGI.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll accept that last part. Someday, software that started out as LLM and GenAI might be turn into something very different. But LLMs and GenAIs  are in use now without, in most cases, a solid business case or even the ability to operate reliably, let alone the types of raptorous claims that are being made.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, incredible amounts of money and/or natural resources are being poured into a technology that doesn&#039;t work as advertised on the corporate side and that has no large-scale business model at all yet on the consumer side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hallucinate Is Not Great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both LLMs and GenAIs hallucinate. This means, make sh*t up at random or demonstrate a total lack of boundaries. This leads not only to minor glitches but, very frequently, to extra arms and legs in GenAI illustrations or instances where LLMs write about events that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a genuine and intractable problem for businesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fast Food chains are using LLMs to take orders. The LLMs do creative things with orders. Customers are displeased. Law firms are using LLMs to replace paralegals. The LLMs are inventing random case citations. That has gone poorly for the law firms in Court.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one memorable case, a major airline ran an ad that featured a smiling stewardess. Despite the fact that Marketing presumably looked at the ad before publication, she had, of course, an extra arm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The supposed cure for AI hallucinations is to have a human look carefully at every output produced by an AI. But this is expensive, manual corrections are expensive, and things are always going to slip by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about this. The LLM defended itself as follows: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;While the output might appear random or nonsensical to a human, it&#039;s not truly random in a statistical sense.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; That isn&#039;t much of a defense.&lt;br /&gt;
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The hallucination problem is fundamental to LLM and GenAI. Fine tuning of different types can be done. Filters can be added to output. Those are bandages. The bottom line is that &#039;&#039;&#039;the hallucination problem can&#039;t be fixed.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;There is no solution.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The LLM quoted above agrees with me as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This is a widely held view among researchers and developers. Hallucination is not merely a bug but an inherent characteristic stemming from the way these models are designed and trained.  This unreliability directly impacts the ability to build solid business cases, as the cost of human oversight and correction can negate potential savings or benefits.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pass Me the Mustache ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs have another problem, similar to hallucination, that can be described as a dangerous lack of boundaries. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. LLMs tend to offer dangerous advice. This includes telling both children and adults to kill themselves. People have actually killed themselves after receiving such advice. Dead children aren&#039;t ideal for a company&#039;s image.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. In early 2026, Elon Musk&#039;s primary AI system was revealed to be creating graphic and detailed sexualized images of real people, violent sexual images, and sexual images of children.&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Racial or other types of group hatred tend to bubble up at times from what you can think of as an LLM&#039;s subconscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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LLMs may start to talk, out of the blue, about Blacks or other minorities in ways that are awkward for businesses. For example, if a customer&#039;s name sounds &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;, an LLM may ask the customer if he or she would like watermelon and fried chicken as part of a business deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a colorful and specific example:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first half of 2025, Elon Musk&#039;s Grok LLM decided that a person&#039;s name sounded Jewish and said, in that context, that Adolf Hitler was the &amp;quot;20th century historical figure&amp;quot; that was best suited, &amp;quot;no question&amp;quot;, to &amp;quot;deal with&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-white hate&amp;quot;. Grok added that, if this view made it &amp;quot;literally Hitler, then pass the mustache&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about that incident. In a humorous note, the LLM vociferously denied that that had happened and said that it was a lie. But it&#039;s documented on multiple news sites including the main BBC site. Here&#039;s a link to a BBC article:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://oldcoder.org/misc/grok-hitler-2025.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk blamed users for asking Grok leading questions. That response misses the point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of where a company stands on political issues, this isn&#039;t the sort of thing that it wants LLM Sales or Support to be saying.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the LLM lack of boundaries issue is slightly less problematic than the LLM hallucinations issue. Filters can be placed between LLMs and the outside world to hide  certain types of statements. Researchers are looking, as well, for ways to prevent harmful tendencies from getting into the LLM subconscious level to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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This said, for the time being, LLMs are going to find ways at times to praise Hitler or to tell children to kill themselves. It&#039;s surprising that this issue is taken so lightly.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the lack of boundaries issue. It seemed to agree with the preceding analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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== AI Thefty is Hefty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To create LLMs and GenAIs, the major ones, massive amounts of copyrighted data are copied into the data soup that I&#039;ve mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Authors and artists consider this to be theft. AI businesses respond that a legal defense known as transformative use applies. In short, transformative use says that you may be able to use copyrighted works without permission if you change the works enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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That part of the law serves a purpose. For example, it&#039;s potentially important in protecting parodies. However, there is more to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, the Supreme Court has ruled recently, in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, 598 U.S. 508 (2023), that the purpose and character of a copy is a factor in its legality. Note: For more information on that case, visit:&lt;br /&gt;
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In other courts and/or cases, issues such as commercial use, wholesale copying, market impact, and reproduction of pieces of originals without transformation have all been found to be factors in the legality of copied works.&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t usually possible to delete just a single contested work from the &amp;quot;mind&amp;quot; of an LLM or GenAI. So it seems quite possible that, if enough parties sue enough AI businesses for copyright infringement, AI businesses as a whole might need to reset some of the AI models that they&#039;ve invested millions of dollars in and start over.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ponzi Scheme is the Dream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing is a type of business financing where money flows in closed loops between 2 or more companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in a typical circular financing deal, Nvidia might invest $100 billion in OpenAI and OpenAI would then use that money to purchase Nvidia chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or a similar deal might be done that involves 3 or 4 companies moving money and products in multiple directions but entirely inside the group.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the current AI frenzy, there is a great deal of circular financing activity going on. The illustration below, from Bloomberg, will give you the general idea:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:251122-circular.jpg|center|alt=circular funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Circular financing per se isn&#039;t illegal. However, it&#039;s slightly dodgy in some respects. For example, circular financing deals can create the impression that something profitable is happening and lead stock prices to rise -- even if no net money has changed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some ordinary companies do do this to artificially boost financial metrics or manipulate stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no indication yet that any of the major AI companies are doing this with ill intent. However, the extent of circular financing in the AI sector is a matter of concern. It raises the question, is the frenzy of AI business activity based more on circular loops than it is on genuine demand from outside the loops?&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, in such loops, revenue that is reported may rise, but actual cash flow might be weak regardless. Multiple analysts have flagged this type of issue as a potential problem. To quote Morgan Stanley in a Fall 2025 report:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The AI ecosystem is increasingly circular — suppliers are funding customers and sharing revenue; there is cross-ownership and rising concentration. More ... disclosure is warranted to understand these relationships.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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To put it another way, a large number of circular financing deals in a sector may both contribute to and help to conceal a bubble in the sector.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Data Center issues ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The AI sector is committed to building data centers, so many and so large, that the move may have a significant impact on natural resources in the U.S. and raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The natural resources issue includes dramatically high water usage in data center areas, the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale, and the gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals.&lt;br /&gt;
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There will be second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-side.&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. citizenry is mobilizing to block the development of some of the new data centers. Whether or not the efforts are successful, the data center issues listed here are likely to be contentious for decades to come.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about these data center issues. This is what it said. The emphasized words were emphasized by the LLM itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The concern about dramatically high water usage in data centers is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The statement about the rapid destruction of plant and animal habitats on a large scale is &#039;&#039;&#039;a growing concern.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;quot;gobbling up of huge quantities of raw materials such as rare earth elements and other minerals&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;also accurate.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The claim that the move &amp;quot;may raise electricity rates significantly for ordinary consumers nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a plausible and widely discussed potential outcome.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The prediction of &amp;quot;second-order effects such as supply chain issues that affect ordinary consumers, once again nation-wide&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;highly probable.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* The assertion that &amp;quot;the data center issues are likely to be contentious for decades to come&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;&#039;a very strong and well-founded prediction.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, Mr. LLM, for agreeing that you actually are a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Consumer-Side Business Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary driver for the AI mania is the idea that some businesses will be able to replace many of their workers with unpaid AIs. However, other companies are hoping to sell AI services after that to the workers who have been fired. I.e.: AI is seen as a way to juice people into profit at two different levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM to comment on the preceding. The LLM said: &#039;&#039;The statement presents a highly simplified and somewhat cynical view of the motivations behind the current AI boom.&#039;&#039; It didn&#039;t contest the essential truth of the statement.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI services will typically be sold on a subscription basis.&lt;br /&gt;
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AI service firms are already offering limited or sample access for free or at little cost. In most cases, this is at a financial loss that isn&#039;t sustainable for large numbers of users. The plan is therefore to get people signed up and presumably hooked and then to enshittify the services.&lt;br /&gt;
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Enshittification is a term coined by Cory Doctorow. It means, to increase costs and reduce quality of services once people are signed up. It&#039;s a common practice in the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem with the AI enshittification plan is that FOSS programs are going to be able to do some of the most desired AI services &#039;&#039;&#039;for free.&#039;&#039;&#039; For example:&lt;br /&gt;
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The GIMP plus the GMIC CNN2X filter &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net image upscaling. For free. A GPU isn&#039;t even required for this one. I do this all the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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avidemux &#039;&#039;&#039;already does&#039;&#039;&#039; high quality neural net video upscaling. For free. I do this all the time as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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What about free at-home LLM text generation and GenAI image generation? The first is already possible, too, and the second will be possible in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are niche AI services that I don&#039;t see readily available FOSS alternatives for yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Two examples are outpainting -- adding content to images so as to extend them -- and adding subtitles to videos. But an LLM tells me that FOSS versions of both of those examples are on the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Niche AI services are unlikely to catch on in large volumes, regardless, for two simple reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. In most instances, the results for existing consumer AI services are mediocre at best. Manual effort is required to fix them. Due to the hallucination issue and for other reasons I don&#039;t expect this to improve much in the short term.&lt;br /&gt;
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2. Relatively few of the niche AI services that exist, or that are going to exist, are going to be services that a large number of people will be willing to pay monthly or annually for. Even at low rates. Let alone at the high rates that these services are going to need to get.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most niche AI services are dead parrots. People who remember Monty Python will understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to all of this, a number of major firms have been trying for years to force people to use AI in contexts where it isn&#039;t needed or welcome.&lt;br /&gt;
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Microsoft &amp;quot;Copilot&amp;quot;, I&#039;m talking to you. Copilot is like Clippy come back to life but now he steals your personal work and resells it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Which is the next point. People are increasingly aware of the fact that commercial AIs steal what that you put into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Smart Toilet was announced at CES 2026. It watches what you do on the toilet and analyzes it. It isn&#039;t AI, as far as I know. Would you really want AI in this device or in other personal devices or on your laptop, waiting to send every detail of your life -- either on or off the toilet -- to corporations?&lt;br /&gt;
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It isn&#039;t hyperbole. Readers are invited to type the words &#039;&#039;&#039;vibrator spyware&#039;&#039;&#039; into Google and see what turns up. And what &#039;&#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;&#039; will show you is nothing compared to what corporations will do with with AI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Firms that would like to sell AI products or services or to put them into devices will need to demonstrate that the AI is actually needed. They will also to need to build a level of trust that will be difficult to come by.&lt;br /&gt;
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I asked an LLM about the preceding. I was surprised to see that the LLM agreed, up to a point, with every point.&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Closing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Future AI is inevitable. Present AI is bad. Run away. Run away fast.&lt;br /&gt;
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